Ditzcourse is a series of conversations with painter, body artist, writer and perfume collector Sands Murray-Wassink. Ditzcourse as in: ditzy, as in silly, but still making discourse. Thinking out loud. Sharing information. Meaning making in relation. As informal as possible.

The series is initiated by Radna Rumping who has been in conversation with Sands for some years. The gift that keeps on giving. How to edit? For each episode of Ditzcourse a guest is invited, and a keyword is suggested. Everyone brings a power object or reference to the table.

This time Martín La Roche is joining, and the keyword is Glamour.

Martín La Roche his works often find their starting points from existing collections of objects and memories, archives as modes of storytelling - which he reassembles into installations, performances or publications. He also founded a museum in a hat.The conversation takes place at the home of Sands in Amsterdam, where he lives with his partner Robin and cat Duman.

In this final episode, recorded on June 25th 2024, Martín, Sands and Radna talk about staying spontaneous, direct artistic exchange, glamour as a spell, a magic box, and daily rituals.

A full transcript and list of references is available here.

Other episodes:
August 27th, 8PM - Introduction by Sands & Radna
September 3rd, 8PM - Spirituality, with Saras
September 10th, 8PM - Pleasure, with Megan Hoetger